Dr. Ruth Buckley

And if you do that in a safe way,

And they have maybe, say, 5%, 10% productivity improvement.

That adds up very quickly in a large organisation, Jess.

So we're looking at the very low end.

We're also experimenting a bit with chatbots.

And look, we're having some success.

But I know a lot of my colleagues around the country, because local authorities like us publish a lot of public data that is on our websites, you can actually create chatbots that will actually feed from the validated data.

public data to create maybe easy access to that in a new format.

Well, Jez, as a public servant of longstanding, I diverge the...

AI and Digital Strategy for the Government, just published there in May 2030.

It's really ambitious.

It's really good.

It's talking about establishing Ireland as a digital regulatory hope and expert.

What I really like is it's talking about investing heavily in research, which I think Ireland has always been traditionally very strong in.

I think we're going to have to keep investing in our people, in our research, and we're going to have to definitely support our SMEs, small to medium enterprises.

I think larger companies with larger budgets

with more of an international presence, they will make sure they ring fence their budgets for this kind of R&D.

I think the SME sector in Ireland then really does have to be guided and supported.

And I was really pleased to see that in the government's AI strategy for 2030.

I completely agree, Jess.