Dr. Stephen Porges

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353 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 14 Apr

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THE ED MYLETT SHOW · How to Rewire Your Body's Response to Stress, Trauma & Anxiety Feat. Dr. Stephen Porges · 14 Apr 2026 podcast

Okay, so I saw heart rate patterns.

I saw when people paid attention, they'd stabilize.

I saw that when people had more B2B variability, they were more resilient or more flexible.

But I asked the next question and that's where the HRV people went off.

I said, what is the neural innervation that is causing that HRV?

And it's complicated, but there's a component of it that is related to part of the Vegas, not the entire part of Vegas.

And this is the part of the ventral vagal complex, which is also related to intonation of voice.

So intonation of voice is just a valid indicator of vagal state than heart rate variability.

No, but you see, your numbers are not really valid numbers of the ventral vagal complex.

good the numbers are because the way you're quantifying which is probably off of a fitbit or apple watch or something like that uh they're measuring or clumping together all variations in heart rate which can include arrhythmias so you can get really impressive hrv measures with an arrhythmia okay so that's your first warning okay the second one is that the type of analysis

that they're using is not an accurate one for extraction of neural influences.

So since heart rate variability is not, there's something in there that is of value, but the value of what you can get out is a function of the sophistication of your signal processing or extraction tools.

It's like mining.

And would you just get a bunch of rock and say, I'd have a gold mine, or would you kind of be a little bit more careful?

Is that... Well, you can do... Well, we get used to... I would help you rewrite your narrative, okay?

Please.

You just made your narrative pathological.

Now, you could say, you know, that this desire to explore, this curiosity is how I grow, how my brain grows and what I find of interest.

And that's a more, let's say, positive view of who you are, as opposed to, you know, the word is really curiosity.

And you may be driven to learn about people or learn about something.

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