Dr. Stuart Ablon

By the way, that word discipline is an interesting one because people somehow have equated discipline with punishment. Yes. Where actually the origins of the word don't involve punishment at all. The origins of the word discipline revolve around teaching, really means to teach. And punishment is a very poor way to... to teach.

By the way, that word discipline is an interesting one because people somehow have equated discipline with punishment. Yes. Where actually the origins of the word don't involve punishment at all. The origins of the word discipline revolve around teaching, really means to teach. And punishment is a very poor way to... to teach.

Now, if you think skill, not will, now you're in the business of teaching because you know what you're teaching, which is skills. But to go back to the harm, two ways, okay, that I think classic discipline, rewards, consequences, things like that cause harm.

Now, if you think skill, not will, now you're in the business of teaching because you know what you're teaching, which is skills. But to go back to the harm, two ways, okay, that I think classic discipline, rewards, consequences, things like that cause harm.

Now, if you think skill, not will, now you're in the business of teaching because you know what you're teaching, which is skills. But to go back to the harm, two ways, okay, that I think classic discipline, rewards, consequences, things like that cause harm.

One is that when you try to motivate somebody with some external motivator, some like tangible thing that you'll get this if you do this, or you won't get this if you don't. There have been thousands of studies that have shown, not just with kids, but with adults too, that when you use external motivators,

One is that when you try to motivate somebody with some external motivator, some like tangible thing that you'll get this if you do this, or you won't get this if you don't. There have been thousands of studies that have shown, not just with kids, but with adults too, that when you use external motivators,

One is that when you try to motivate somebody with some external motivator, some like tangible thing that you'll get this if you do this, or you won't get this if you don't. There have been thousands of studies that have shown, not just with kids, but with adults too, that when you use external motivators,

to try to get kids to do stuff or people to do stuff, it actually decreases their internal drive to do what you want them to do. They do become more motivated, but what do they become more motivated? To get the thing. Get the stuff. They actually become less motivated to achieve the goal you want them to achieve, which is ironic. So not only is it not work, it makes matters worse.

to try to get kids to do stuff or people to do stuff, it actually decreases their internal drive to do what you want them to do. They do become more motivated, but what do they become more motivated? To get the thing. Get the stuff. They actually become less motivated to achieve the goal you want them to achieve, which is ironic. So not only is it not work, it makes matters worse.

to try to get kids to do stuff or people to do stuff, it actually decreases their internal drive to do what you want them to do. They do become more motivated, but what do they become more motivated? To get the thing. Get the stuff. They actually become less motivated to achieve the goal you want them to achieve, which is ironic. So not only is it not work, it makes matters worse.

And this smell is not a small correlation. This is a strong, what we call in research, negative correlation. The more you use external reinforcers, the less internal drive develops. And it actually can cause even more problems because what ends up happening is people end up behaving in unethical ways also because they're just trying to get the stuff.

And this smell is not a small correlation. This is a strong, what we call in research, negative correlation. The more you use external reinforcers, the less internal drive develops. And it actually can cause even more problems because what ends up happening is people end up behaving in unethical ways also because they're just trying to get the stuff.

And this smell is not a small correlation. This is a strong, what we call in research, negative correlation. The more you use external reinforcers, the less internal drive develops. And it actually can cause even more problems because what ends up happening is people end up behaving in unethical ways also because they're just trying to get the stuff.

I want to talk about the second way that I think rewards and punishments can really be harmful because not only do they decrease internal motivation, okay, intrinsic motivation, but for kids and adults, they can do real damage to self-esteem because here's the thing. If we're constantly using rewards and consequences, we're sending the not-so-subtle message that

I want to talk about the second way that I think rewards and punishments can really be harmful because not only do they decrease internal motivation, okay, intrinsic motivation, but for kids and adults, they can do real damage to self-esteem because here's the thing. If we're constantly using rewards and consequences, we're sending the not-so-subtle message that

I want to talk about the second way that I think rewards and punishments can really be harmful because not only do they decrease internal motivation, okay, intrinsic motivation, but for kids and adults, they can do real damage to self-esteem because here's the thing. If we're constantly using rewards and consequences, we're sending the not-so-subtle message that

That we think at least part of the problem here is you're not trying hard enough. Or why would we smart adults be trying to motivate you? And my grandfather, who I was incredibly close to, and he lived till he was 106. Wow. Yeah, my grandmother just celebrated her 107th birthday.

That we think at least part of the problem here is you're not trying hard enough. Or why would we smart adults be trying to motivate you? And my grandfather, who I was incredibly close to, and he lived till he was 106. Wow. Yeah, my grandmother just celebrated her 107th birthday.

That we think at least part of the problem here is you're not trying hard enough. Or why would we smart adults be trying to motivate you? And my grandfather, who I was incredibly close to, and he lived till he was 106. Wow. Yeah, my grandmother just celebrated her 107th birthday.