Dr. Tamara Nall

She just asked you that.

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, got it.

Okay, so, oh, that is amazing that she could do that.

And let me ask you this.

Okay, so all of the products, the AI products that we feature on the show,

are those that people eventually, whether they work for a corporation and it's B2B, whether they work for the government and it's B2G, whether they work for consumer and it's B2C, is something that they can actually use for themselves.

In your case, you have this IRIS methodology.

You have NOVA, you have Centio.

You created Centio to kind of like help complement NOVA to get through this stressful phase.

If I'm honest, I'm struggling with, for my listeners, how can they best use it for the AI projects and tools that they're building?

because it sounds like they could use it, but then they've got to build like this alter ego to make sure that it's like checking the first.

And I'm not sure that people would even know they need to do that or have time to do that.

So what's the best case scenario for someone to use the IRIS methodology to take what they're working on to the next level?

OK, got it.

And if somebody wants to learn more about it, are they able to use it now?

Or is that some time frame from now, like three months or a month or a week?

Or can someone today, if they want to experiment with your iris methodology,

And I have to caveat everything that on this podcast is related to AI and it has to be like a product or tool.

So if you're saying that as a developer, I can develop it and use that.

How would I do that?