Dr. Zach Bush

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The Joe Rogan Experience · #2529 - Zach Bush · 22 Jul 2026 podcast

And so it's biologically made by algae and things like this.

And so it's similar to oil, where it's just a carbon substrate, but it's still in this living form.

But it's creating this strange carbon molecule called vincristine.

So it's made in algae, it's present in algae.

Instead of saying, hey, here's a biologic system that we should look at, like, maybe this should be in our soil systems.

Maybe we should be growing food that had, you know, this therapeutic effect, this anti-cancer effect.

And instead they said,

Now, let's separate the algae from nature and let's create huge vats of this and we will chemically extract the vincristine.

Vincristine today is sold for $28,000 a gram.

And so the same thing was done with oil.

We can take something that's worth 20 cents and we can turn it into $28,000 if we manipulate these molecules and then make a story of this treats a disease that's attacking humanity.

And so that's how the antibiotic, anti-cancer, anti-diabetes, anti-obesity, anti-everything has come about is let's invent chemicals that solve a problem that doesn't even really exist.

And so this is where we start to slip into this massive abstraction of we get so good at solving problems that shouldn't even exist or maybe don't even exist.

And so this was the slippery slope that we set into in 1910s that then accelerated like anything in the 1950s.

So the 1950s, you'll remember we had penicillin in late World War II.

So penicillin was the first direct antibiotic, and it was a revolution.

It was so exciting.

So kids in the 1940s and 50s were getting an injection in their butt for anything, common cold, sneeze, red eyes, penicillin.

So we were giving out these antibiotics thinking, well, we're going to sterilize humans finally.

And humans went sterile because Louis Pasteur's late 1800s telling us germs were the only thing that was really killing humans.

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