Drew Hinshaw
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382 appearances
6 recordings
3 series
first heard Dec 2025
last heard 3d ago
Drew Hinshaw’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Europe is spending hundreds of billions of dollars replicating systems that America traditionally supplies.
The EU is speeding up its schedule to launch several hundred European satellites that will let their governments communicate securely over non-American networks.
France ordered 2.5 million civil servants to replace Microsoft Teams and Zoom with their own domestically built video conference platform, Visio.
Several governments, Germany, France, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Belgium, they've started rolling out their own homegrown texting services, discouraging civil servants from using WhatsApp, which is owned by the Facebook company Meta.
It's easy to draw a caricature where Europe is sort of living this sweet life and depending on American technology.
And that's true to an extent.
But what's really going on is they're just really, really interlinked.
So this is a story of like interdependency.
To smooth things over, Mark Rutte, the NATO Secretary General, visited the Oval Office in April.
He brought papers listing all the ways Europe was helping with the war and how many billions of dollars in American weaponry Europe was still purchasing.
The president threatened to leave NATO, and Rutte pushed back and said, no, you won't.
We've all been living in a world where interconnectivity is part of the strength of modern societies, where a military alliance is so powerful because its allies pool all their forces and share their resources.
And now we're living in a world that is just much more mistrust between Europe and the U.S.
And the alliance will go on and muddle on, probably.
But that interconnectivity that was part of its strength, that part is fading away and in it we have everybody doing their own thing a lot more.
Yeah, it just gets at how this relationship is like a loveless marriage that neither side can really afford to leave.
That's right.
You have these meetings where European prime ministers, presidents are told to come alone, no aides, don't even bring a phone.
They meet behind closed doors.
The idea is they should have a moment to speak candidly.
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