Drew Hinshaw
speaker
382 appearances
6 recordings
3 series
first heard Dec 2025
last heard 3d ago
Drew Hinshaw’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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And in those discussions, some of them have been so almost like vent sessions about the U.S.
that leaders have joked about calling it therapy night.
You've seen them say that this strategy of placating Trump with flattery and concessions on issues like defense and trade, it's not working, that normalcy, in their view, isn't coming back.
What is interesting to us is that several leaders have seen an example that they can turn to, which is Mark Carney of Canada, who is trying to build up sort of a dense web of defense and security connections with other countries around the world to avoid being overly reliant on America.
And it's an example that European leaders in these kind of very sensitive closed door sessions have turned to and cited as a direction of travel that they can follow.
Well, nobody wants to leave NATO or break it up.
It's a marriage that neither side can afford to get a divorce.
What you've seen European governments do is press the gas pedal on something like an experiment in de-Americanization.
Governments from France to the Netherlands have quietly removed American technology from their system.
They're adopting their own software and asking civil servants to not use Microsoft Teams or Office.
The European Union is launching hundreds of satellites into space so that its officials can discreetly discuss issues over satellite connections without using Elon Musk's Starlink network.
You're seeing European defense companies pitch themselves as a sovereign alternative to platforms like the F-35, which some governments have tried to back out of because they feel that the U.S.
could, in a conflict, potentially de-arm or disactivate American weaponry.
That's right.
And one of the issues, one of the frictions here is that the war in Iran burned through a lot of the U.S.
's supply of long-range and air defense missiles that allies were counting on.
And you've seen several governments move to domestically produce more of their own and not be reliant on the U.S.
for those systems, which on the one hand is a boon for the U.S.
It's good.
We don't want allies to be over-reliant.
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