Drew Nickens

He's one of the best.

He looked at me one time, Drew.

Yeah, I'm not even kidding.

Do you believe me?

Do you believe me?

No, at the Pyramid in Memphis, which is now the Bass Pro Shop.

The Bulls were doing an exhibition game in Memphis one year in like the mid-90s, and my uncle took us.

And we had pretty good seats, and I remember Michael Jordan and I locked eyes.

And then I got really good at shooting basketball in the little hoop we had outside of my parents' house there for a little while.

And then I kind of stopped.

Nicotine is something that has been a part of my life now, Grant, for I'm 39 since I was maybe 22.

So we're talking over 15 years.

Nicotine has been a part of my life.

And on this journey, Grant, this long, arduous journey I've had.

Uh, with the chemical known as nicotine, which actually, by the way, really can help your brain in certain ways.

Um, it's, it's, I've, I've, I've gone from smoking cigarettes and I thought, oh, that's not really great for my lungs.

I don't think.

And then I've got, and then Zen type things where it's, it's in your mouth.

Uh,

And then I was thinking, oh, this isn't good for my lips.