Dutch Rojas
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first heard Feb 2025
last heard Feb 2025
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And I'm like, hey, you know, if you don't do that or if you're not fully insured here, right, then what you could do is you could build up this beautiful asset. You can invest with this asset. And then eventually, maybe it's three years, five years, seven years, ten years. I don't know. It's dependent on what strategy you choose. All of this stuff comes out of the investment.
You no longer have to pay these expenses, meaning your business flourishes. And so I'm super focused on helping these private practices in the mid markets and certainly physician owned hospitals. I saw you this summer or this past summer at the physician owned hospital meeting. Yeah, I love them because, you know, they're so hungry. Their margins are thin and they're trying to figure out.
And in earnest, they generally want to be great physicians and help take care of patients. And so I'm like, maybe I can be that partner, right? So I have a team of 16. I can be the partner to help them. And then the other thing I'm working on, which is super exciting, is the Physician's Capital Fund or FICAP Fund, as we call it.
And we're investing in a bunch of small startups, which is largely the space I've been in for 15, 16 years. I'm personally invested in about 36 healthcare startups from an angel investor perspective. Some have done really, really well, as you know, and some have totally bombed. But when they have great people, I think it's one of the most wonderful recruiting tools I've ever had.
I found really good people in these startups, really smart young people that give me a lot of hope. And we take them out and we go, hey, why don't you come work on this new project for us? And on the other side, we're getting a chance to really help physicians build some true equity, right? They've always been W-2 labor people.
Even if they work for themselves through an LLC, it's always been about their labor and their hands. And so it's like, hey, guess what? Let's build a portfolio. Here's where we can help you. This is what private equity is. That's not me. This is what venture capital is. This is how venture capital works. This is these types of opportunities that you can be an investor in.
And they have asymmetrical returns. And so, Scott, this has been just an absolute fabulous deal. I think you had Dr. Paul Slosar on it. He was my co-founder. We have eight GPs, all docs.
Well, look, I think it's really tough. Like I have two small kids, three and seven. Like most professionals, I'm on the road Sunday to Wednesday, Sunday to Thursday, pretty much every week. And look, I think this whole Maha movement to me is super exciting because it's finally saying to people like, hey, you can be healthy. We're going to empower you.
And more importantly, we're going to enable you to be healthy. And I love that. So look, I don't go out to dinner with clients anymore. When I'm in Chicago, I really want to go to dinner. I might go to dinner one night out of the three, but I won't go with clients most of the nights. I'll go back to the hotel and I'll go to the gym. Nobody wants to do these things. I'm not a gym rat by nature.
I don't think it's fun, but I did play D1 soccer, and I did serve in the Marine Corps for six years, and so I've got some level of fitness that's pretty important. I think, man, your body is a temple. God gave it to you. People don't agree, but I do. You know, he created you in his image. He wants you to take care of your body. And so I'm like, hey, let's do it together. Like my kids do it.
My wife does it. Right. We all do it. And no, sometimes do I want a hamburger? Do I want, you know, a Philly cheesesteak like I did last night? Like, yeah, of course. But what you really want to do is, you know, I walk every morning. I run every morning. I get up super early. I'm up by three thirty or so. I go to bed by nine. Right. I just want to live the most of life that I can live.
And this is how I found to live it. Like keep a really disciplined schedule. Don't eat junk and really try, you know, to laugh a whole bunch and to say thank you. I wake up every morning because I'm – I'm not a – I wouldn't say that I'm the nicest guy by nature, but I've tried to just be positive in the mornings and say everything I have is a gift.
I got to make the most of what I have, and how can I help people today? Now, I fail at that a whole bunch, as you know, because on Twitter or X, I am as transparent as it comes. And sometimes I kind of get into it with people. But, you know, I mean, you know, then I got to forgive myself and be like, OK, dude, like apologize and move on.
One of the things I'm seeing, like I was in New York two weeks ago for I think almost six days. And seeing a bunch of old friends, like we ran together in the morning. And it's cold. And these, this group of guys that I've hung out with since the late nineties, we all got together and you know, you, we used to go out for dinner and drinks and it was like, now let's go for a run.
Then let's go for coffee. I found it so enjoyable. We told old stories. We laughed. We had a great time. And we were all out doing something, getting that good fresh air, getting your body moving. I think it's super important. And again, I've never seen the joy of fitness and being healthy as much as I have in the last 18 months.
I think the United States is really kind of turning the corner and saying, Hey, you know, we really have to take responsibility for ourselves and we really need to do this for the next generation because not not not being healthy. We're going to have more chronic issues. Health care is going to be more expensive. Right. And all of these challenges that you and I talk about pretty regularly.
So I'm excited to see people kind of getting in shape and getting to it.
Is it ever-changing? I mean, wow. My wife asked that December of – 2023, I came home from D.C. on the 18th and I told her, I said, I don't think this is ever going to get done. I think that's the first time I've ever been. I've never been accused of being a pessimist. Right. I'm always the over idealistic optimist, which I'm happy to take that title.
But sometimes I don't think it's going to get done. I think that it's gonna be really difficult. Look, the lobbyist is powerful, right? And it's entrenched and it works really hard. Regulatory capture, Bill Gurley did probably the best presentation I've ever seen on that. You can look it up on YouTube. And I think Washington, D.C. has fully embraced regulatory capture.
It is a work of government corporations working together so they don't have to compete. I don't like that. I naturally and instinctively fight back on that. My whole thesis, and this has been my thesis since 1990, summer of 97, when I got into health care, is that physicians on an unencumbered basis produce better outcomes. Now, I had a thesis. I didn't have any empirical evidence to prove it.
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