Dutch Rojas

I mean, when I met him, he was in maybe his late 30s, early 40s. He's still, I mean, I don't know how old he is now, 52, 54 or something. I mean, he's a young guy. And he was really the first visionary I met that really changed the landscape. I mean, he took SCA from very little to very big very quickly. And he spoke the language of independent physicians, and he truly was a partner to them.

I mean, when I met him, he was in maybe his late 30s, early 40s. He's still, I mean, I don't know how old he is now, 52, 54 or something. I mean, he's a young guy. And he was really the first visionary I met that really changed the landscape. I mean, he took SCA from very little to very big very quickly. And he spoke the language of independent physicians, and he truly was a partner to them.

And that was always the difference. Business guys in my world were always like, if you're a business person, then you're anti-physician. And I was like, no, no, no, we don't have to be that way. If we want to make the world better and we want to make – healthcare better for people, then we're going to have to figure out how to trust each other and work together, right?

And that was always the difference. Business guys in my world were always like, if you're a business person, then you're anti-physician. And I was like, no, no, no, we don't have to be that way. If we want to make the world better and we want to make – healthcare better for people, then we're going to have to figure out how to trust each other and work together, right?

We'll set up systems of accountability. We'll use great operating agreements and we'll kind of put those together and then we'll do the right things. And Scott was certainly a leader in that. And then of course, One World Surgical. I mean, what a fantastic organization. And then he worked at Optum Ventures. I mean, he's just been a great person to know and watch.

We'll set up systems of accountability. We'll use great operating agreements and we'll kind of put those together and then we'll do the right things. And Scott was certainly a leader in that. And then of course, One World Surgical. I mean, what a fantastic organization. And then he worked at Optum Ventures. I mean, he's just been a great person to know and watch.

And when I tell young people about him, I'm like, look, you're not going to find much information about this guy, but like, Find people like him. He is an inspiration and he ought to be followed. Like you want you want you want to walk in the footsteps of a great person. He's there and he's super humble. He'll never say, oh, yeah, I did all this. Like, he's just not like that.

And when I tell young people about him, I'm like, look, you're not going to find much information about this guy, but like, Find people like him. He is an inspiration and he ought to be followed. Like you want you want you want to walk in the footsteps of a great person. He's there and he's super humble. He'll never say, oh, yeah, I did all this. Like, he's just not like that.

He's like, well, it's it's it's really been the great people around me. I mean, he's just such an effective leader. I mean, I think the guy's great.

He's like, well, it's it's it's really been the great people around me. I mean, he's just such an effective leader. I mean, I think the guy's great.

Number one is we are running a – we started a consulting agency for physician-owned hospitals and large private practices. There are so many ideas, right? I went to a small school called Cambridge in the UK. And, you know, there's so many business ideas that haven't trickulated down to that level, right? What we categorize as the mid-markets, right?

Number one is we are running a – we started a consulting agency for physician-owned hospitals and large private practices. There are so many ideas, right? I went to a small school called Cambridge in the UK. And, you know, there's so many business ideas that haven't trickulated down to that level, right? What we categorize as the mid-markets, right?

You've got very sophisticated strategies within health systems, certainly PE-backed health systems you've got very highly sophisticated, but you don't have that level of sophistication down to the level I like. The surgery center partners, the large ortho practices, the physician-owned hospital world, you just don't see it.

You've got very sophisticated strategies within health systems, certainly PE-backed health systems you've got very highly sophisticated, but you don't have that level of sophistication down to the level I like. The surgery center partners, the large ortho practices, the physician-owned hospital world, you just don't see it.

And so one of the things we started working on was we built our very first captive a year ago March. So we built our first captive to do some property and casualty lines and to help physicians understand that they don't have to pay premiums every year if they understand how captives work and the captive strategies. Right.

And so one of the things we started working on was we built our very first captive a year ago March. So we built our first captive to do some property and casualty lines and to help physicians understand that they don't have to pay premiums every year if they understand how captives work and the captive strategies. Right.

So I started bringing in friends from EY and Accenture and a bunch of other kind of consulting houses and saying to these docs, listen, you're already paying all these fees out of OPEX. Let me show you how to turn an expense using some financial engineering into assets.

So I started bringing in friends from EY and Accenture and a bunch of other kind of consulting houses and saying to these docs, listen, you're already paying all these fees out of OPEX. Let me show you how to turn an expense using some financial engineering into assets.

So this is something that really excites me because now we're teaching docs the power of the balance sheet when generally speaking, this doesn't go for everyone, they've been focused on just being a pass-through entity. Like I made $100,000 this month, I'm going to take it all.

So this is something that really excites me because now we're teaching docs the power of the balance sheet when generally speaking, this doesn't go for everyone, they've been focused on just being a pass-through entity. Like I made $100,000 this month, I'm going to take it all.