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Dwarkesh Patel

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

And so you want techniques which leverage the latter.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

And once we have AGI, we'll have researchers which scale linearly with compute, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

So we'll have this avalanche of millions of AI researchers and their stock will be growing as fast as compute.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

And so maybe this will mean that it is rational or it will make sense to have

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

them doing good old fashioned AI and doing these artisanal solutions.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

Does that, as a vision of what happens after AGI in terms of how AI research will evolve, I wonder if that's still compatible with a better lesson.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

Well, how did we get to this AGI?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

So suppose it started with general methods, but now we've got the AGI.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

And now we want to go... But we're done.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

Hmm?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

We're done.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

Interesting.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

You don't think that there's anything above AGI?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

Well, I'm using it to get superhuman levels of intelligence or competence at different tasks.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

I guess there's different gradations of you.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

So maybe one way to motivate this is AlphaGo is superhuman.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

It beat any Go player.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

AlphaZero would beat AlphaGo every single time.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

So there's ways to get more superhuman than even superhuman.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

And it was a different architecture.