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Dwarkesh

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1735 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I would also point out that even when we make these random fortuitous discoveries, it is usually like an extremely smart professor who's been working on something vaguely related for years in a first world country.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Like it's not randomly distributed across everyone in the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

You get more lottery tickets for these discoveries when you are intelligent, when you have good technology, when you're doing good work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And part of what we're expecting is, yeah, like,

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

The best example I can think of is that Ozempic was discovered by looking at Gila monster venom.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And like, yeah, maybe the AIs will decide using their superior research taste and good planning that the best thing to do is just catalog every single biomolecule in the world and look at it really hard.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

But that's something you can do better if you have all of this compute, if you have all of this intelligence, rather than just kind of waiting to see what things the U.S.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

government might fund normal fallible human researchers to do.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

One more thing I'll interject.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I think you make a great point that discoveries don't always come from where we think.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Like NVIDIA originally came from gaming.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So you can't necessarily aim at one part of the economy, expand it separately from everything else.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

We do kind of predict that the superintelligences will be somewhat distributed throughout the entire economy, trying to expand everything.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Obviously more effort in things that they care about a lot, like robotics or things that are relevant to an arms race that might be happening later.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

But we are predicting that whatever kind of broad-based economic experimentation you need, we are going to have.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

If you are the planner and you're trying to do this, first of all, you go to the bottlenecks that are preventing you from doing anything else, like no humanoid robots.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Okay, if you're an AI, you need those to do the experiments you want.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

maybe automated biology labs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So you'll have some amount of time, we say a year.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

It could be more or less than that getting these things running.