Dylan Cleaver
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1,233 appearances
7 recordings
2 series
first heard Dec 2025
last heard 31 Jul
Dylan Cleaver’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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I'm tied up with all black stuff all day today, but I'm going to get onto it overnight.
And the inference was that Hardy was kind of just showing how lucky the All Blacks were to have him and have his time because, you know, when he wasn't with the All Blacks, he was stitching together these global, you know, mergers and acquisitions.
And as it was told to me, it was only much later on in the piece that Grizz learned that Hardy was in HR.
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would have pissed them off that would have pissed them off knowing um so i mean to this to this day there's still a little bit of a little bit of canterbury auckland angst but nothing like the 80s is it no nothing like that 80s and you've got to remember that the the grizz heart thing fell apart quite badly in 91. so they're all sweetness and light in 87 yeah then grizz got the job that hardy clearly wanted
that Aucklanders clearly felt their heart should have gone and maybe on balance he probably should have got it but I think he was the more innovative more dynamic coach at that time but Grizz got the All Blacks things were going swimmingly you get to about 89 you get to about 90 and the wheels start falling off a little bit buck
Buck has dropped and, you know, it starts that whole bring back Buck phenomenon.
Australia are starting to rise with some fantastic players, your Liners, your Phil Kearns.
They're starting to become far more dynamic.
You saw Campisi in there and the Horan in the middle were coming through.
Yeah.
So the balance of power in international rugby was shifting.
New Zealand rugby panicked and just made this awful, awful decision on the eve of the 91 World Cup that they were going to retain Grizz as head coach, but they were going to add...
heart as co-head coach oh and that's where that was oil and water mixing you know it just didn't work New Zealand went to the world cup in Great Britain they lost to Australia in the semi-final Ireland they were poorly received as a team over there like Australia where everyone's
Favourites, Darlings, they played the media game very well.
New Zealand were very taciturn and closed off.
It kind of ended ugly and it ruined Hart's chance of getting that job.
I think both of them left fairly embittered.
Grizz felt like he had been lumbered with this impossible situation.
And Hardy felt that it blocked his way to the job.
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