Ed Husain

Remove Israel, remove America, and we'll have a much better state because we will give you Islam as a solution.

And ultimately, we'll try and create paradise on earth.

Now, again, here's the other problem.

Now, for 1,400 years, open up any classical Muslim text.

There's no reference to the Quran as the constitution whatsoever.

because that denigrates and demeans holy texts.

It's scripture, it's the word of God.

It's not a political document, but that's what they made it to be.

And therefore it resonates with ordinary Muslims, most of whom sadly can't distinguish between Islam, the faith,

And then this new thing that emerges and calls itself Islam too.

So there's this blur between the faith and the political ideology that emerges under Marxist and Nazi influences.

And that's why it resonates.

It also resonates because it's very modern.

If you meet some of the elder Muslims in say, Bukhara, you were talking about your visits to Central Asia, they're wispy bearded, long cap wearing, mystical, loving.

Sure, they're socially conservative, but they're not gonna blow you up.

Well, they never used to.

But the Muslim Brotherhood types, they wear suits, they wear ties, they're often clean shaven, they're thoroughly modern.

and they have this cancer of deep hatred for the Western fellow Muslims.

You want to say something else?

Nation of Islam.