Ed Husain

You find Muslims being killed, say, in Kashmir.

Well, they're not being killed because they're Muslims.

They're being killed because they're caught between India and Pakistan and a geopolitical conflict over borders.

The Muslim Brotherhood will say, no, no, no.

They've been killed because they're Muslims.

And the solution is what we said in the 1920s.

Islam is the solution.

The Quran is our constitution.

That's their slogan.

Our greatest desire is jihad, and our pathway is martyrdom.

And they have this entire slogan, which mobilizes and allows ordinary people to think, oh, right, we actually have a solution that meets violence with violence.

So in the West, they will say there's massive Islamophobia, a term that they helped create, by the way.

So Islamophobia is their term.

And now if there's homophobia and if there's, oh, there's Islamophobia too.

So if the Jewish people are complaining about antisemitism, well, we're going to complain and become victims of Islamophobia.

And the way you confront that is by making Islam the solution, by focusing on your Muslim identity and believing in jihad and seeing the Quran as a constitution.

So that's why they succeed because their messaging is compelling.

And it's a negative messaging.

We're against all of these governments.

Remove all of these 56 Muslim nation states.