Ed Husain

And the third thing he takes away from America, and then he takes that into the prisons of Egypt, which produces milestones, is a deep, deep venom towards African-Americans.

And he calls them the N-word.

He refers to them as having these primal instincts and therefore producing jazz music to which monkeys and others can dance.

And so he leaves America with this deep sense of...

deep hatred towards some of the most important things in America, freedom, the justice system, which he manipulates, and then obviously the racial equality movement that was coming to force under the leadership of Martin Luther King and others.

He then goes back to Egypt, and this is the strangeness of the man.

He says the Egyptian government is not a Muslim government.

He says most Egyptians are not Muslims.

He makes what we call takfir, or excommunicates them from Islam.

And he says only a small vanguard of him and people around him are true believers, and they're the ones who are in prison being tortured.

Now, in an attempt to be fair to the man, he's had a hard time in America.

He goes to Egypt, gets put into prison, and the Egyptian government

tortures him and his contention is, how can a Muslim government torture me for trying to be a better Muslim, trying to bring about an Islamic state?

It's your point earlier, Constantine, that I'm only being a good Muslim, why am I being tortured?

But the Egyptian government's point was he and his organization had supported the assassination of the Egyptian prime minister, several Egyptian judges, and they had found 150 cases of ammunition contained by the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood.

And the question from the authorities is, what's this for?

and they said oh it's to blow up the zionists in neighboring palestine but the government was convinced that this was going to be used in egypt so they saw them at the terrorist organization and milestones his author was put into prison and that's when he comes out and he writes you know milestones and commentaries on the quran that justify the assassination of the egyptian president again and calls every muslim government in the world

non-muslim in other words you are a legitimate target for us it's not just israelis by then only a three-year-old state and it's not just the americans which had then supported israel so they now turn against america more

viciously, and it's not just the British imperialists or the European colonizers, it's every Muslim government, and you too must go, and your supporters, which means ordinary Muslims, which takes us back to the original point that, you know, Islam and ordinary Muslims are the biggest threat to the milestones-led worldview.

You mentioned milestones, and I should say something else, because in around 1966, Sayyid Qutb was hanged by the Egyptian government for writing milestones.