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Ed Zitron

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3419 total appearances

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

They allowed websites that had been previously pushed down to come back, spammy results, so that you ended up farting around on Google more, seeing more impressions, and bing-bong, number go up.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

Propagar, sadly, he sadly moved on.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

He's alive.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

He is now the chief technologist at Google.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

I would say like 30% my work was the problem.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

The funny thing is that Propagar was riding high, taking a massive, massive growth of Google.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

He was doing so well.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And then he got made to take over Gemini, Google's AI.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And then there was a thing in, I think it was early 2024, where this, well, maybe it was 2025, where Google Gemini was generating Chinese George Washingtons.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And the conservatives were going, there's a black Nazi, there's a Chinese George Washington.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

My tiny little brain is vibrating at a thousand miles a minute.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And for some reason, Prabhakar Raghavan had to take responsibility.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And this is not a charming man.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

This isn't a man who's like a political navigator, he's just rude.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

He's very good at being rude.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

In the end, sadly, Propagar's work has been done.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

Google sucks now, and as Corey will tell you in his excellent book and across his wonderful literature, this is a platform problem across basically the entirety of the internet.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And there's one other thing as well, Jerry Dishler, who's now the head of ads.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

One of his things was, look, I'm not saying that revenue needs to control ads.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

However, we all have a shared reality.