Eileen Wilder

Something needs to change.

So now tell me, you're a pastor.

That's kind of all you know, right?

And suddenly you're doing like this entire 180 degrees.

Like I can't even think of something more extreme as far as your journey.

So take a step by step, because I think for a lot of people, there's also an element of, I'm going to look for my passion.

But that can't be your passion.

You don't have the conviction to know that it's your passion yet, right?

So how did that form?

I want to tap there for a second because I think the listeners, I think a lot of us, if we're stuck either to corporate or we've been doing something very specific or startups or venture capital, whatever, we don't even know what's on the menu.

And there's so much on the menu right now.

There's so many ways to make money and make a living and live an incredible life.

So first of all, lean in.

This is going to be such a good conversation, but you also need to be in LeapCon to get

see the new possible.

So I want to make sure that you are coming to San Jose.

It is going to blow your mind about possibilities.

Okay, so you are walking in this Narnia.

Listeners, I want you to really think about what is that zone of genius?

There's already things that people are intrigued by you.