Elan Barenholtz

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let's let's just call it human level um perceptual perceptual linguistic coherence.
So that I can say to you, hey, can you go grab that uh or say to a machine, can you go grab that uh object, describe what I want, and then the machine's able to go and do uh exactly what I described, then my my argument is that uh I don't think like and and again this is speculative.
I could be proven wrong certainly on this
My suspicion is that we're not gonna be able to do it using the kind of approach that multimodal models currently use.
Uh that you're not gonna get there.
There it's kind of a dumb trick, uh, the way that we're currently solving the problem because we're not really allowing uh these two these two different
uh modalities these t to to kind of live on their own and do the work that they do.
Instead we're kind of
We're we're we're strong arming perception into a linguistic form.
Uh what I think is m may be a more important solution and and I hope uh you know this podcast one day is is uh you know early uh kinda kind of an early um uh sort of canary in the coal mine for this idea is that it's something closer to this kind of shared latent space that you what you do what you have is these these completely distinct uh kind of m uh mappings.
We call them embeddings.
Uh they they can kind of grow up on their own, learn the information that they need to independently of one another, but at the same time, they have this sort of shared sandbox where they're able to c communicate with one another and and do things.
So uh I I think it might take a very different approach to get full perceptual linguistic competency.
Okay.
Sellers?
I believe
Sellers.
Oh gosh, I read Wilfred Sellers in early nearly uh one of my first philosophy classes I ever took.
Uh I'm trying to remember the name of the book, but I'm sorry.
So what which uh which which work, boy?
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