Eleanor Gordon Smith
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
I got interested in uncertainty years ago.
There's a kind of uncertainty that we all live with, where you don't know the answer, and it's not a big deal.
Like what time the bus is coming, who left the front door open, where that pen went.
But I wanted to know about the opposite.
High-stakes uncertainty.
Where the facts aren't decisive, and it hurts to not know what to think.
Where there are big consequences, it affects your whole life.
I wanted to know, is it possible to just sit in that kind of foundational doubt?
Or do you just have to flip a coin and pick something, anything to believe?
Which is how I got interested in Nicole Klumper.
She's 40 now, but this starts when she was 16.
And she just couldn't catch a break.
She was in foster care after her dad, who had sole custody of her for most of her life, had a stroke and died.
She'd bounced around between friends' houses, but wound up in a group home.
She started really wanting to know about her mum.
She lived nearby, just a couple hours' drive.
But they hadn't seen each other in more than ten years.
The custody court hadn't even allowed visits.
And Nicole didn't know why.
A quick warning, what I'm about to go into mentions different kinds of abuse.