Elis James

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Another week, another audio industry thought seminar led by Ellis and John.

We're in high demand for our unique insights gathered from 12 years of digital broadcasting, be it how to come up with new and engaging formats or the CCTV blind spots where you can vape in the BBC or how to advertise Fuse Energy without sounding like you're grieving.

After blowing the minds of industry movers and shakers at South By in Shoreditch, it was up to Britain's content capital, Manchester, for a meet and greet organised by Clotted Panda.

But there's one thing you can't replicate through vertical integration or dynamic placement.

Good old-fashioned face-to-face.

Ellis and I boarded the midday train for some rare time alone, and it was clear from the outset that both of us were fizzing with ideas for the future of podcasting.

And a good job too, as spending the journey idly scrolling through our phones would have been impossible due to the 30 seconds of 5G available across the two and a half hour journey.

It is insane.

As we sat down, Ellis was first to get the creative juices flowing.

These tables have wireless chargers.

What about wireless podcasts?