Elizabeth Jo
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2,299 appearances
6 recordings
1 series
first heard Jun 2025
last heard 27 Mar
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He can say whatever he likes.
And in fact, I suppose we could say it's not really a pardon at all because it is not permissible for a president to pardon someone on state charges.
the sorts of things that he's doing and everyone says, Well, what what does that mean?
And the answer is it means nothing.
I don't know if anyone's thinking like that, but that certainly makes sense at the federal level if you want to avoid uh federal charges.
There's definitely more of a sense that there's a perhaps a pay-to-play system in some aspects of the criminal justice system now.
Not just only getting a pardon, but maybe you'll have
Charges that are dropped or charges that are never brought at all.
And of course, that is deeply corrupting of the criminal justice system.
Of course.
Um and so yeah, I assume that the flip side could happen as well.
Um, you know, not sure anybody would want to admit to that right now.
But yeah, structurally the incentives are certainly there.
I think so.
Yeah.
Um, although we you know, one example though is that if you do that, like if you think about the post January sixth attempts to prosecute or bring criminal prosecution at the state level, look what happened, which was harassment, intimidation of the very prosecutors that we saw in Georgia and and elsewhere.
Sure.
Um, you know, you can try to bring state charges.
But then you have the entire apparatus of the right wing media and people who the president himself may call you out and threaten you.
So there is that.
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