Elizabeth Jo

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99% Invisible · Constitution Breakdown #5: Dr. Tom Frieden · 26 Dec 2025 podcast

enforce regulations that are necessary to prevent the spread of communicable diseases.

So the moratorium was ultimately challenged in court and the Supreme Court put a halt to it the same year that it was issued.

Um now this was uh after your time as director, but uh you know, we were wondering when you had an agency like the CDC.

When you have to make a really big decision like this, do you think

primarily and only about the public health decisions?

Or are you also thinking, well, I I have kind of a legal framework in my mind too to make sure that this, if it is to be challenged, maybe we can have some safe assumptions about it going forward.

I see.

I think that's so important and and one of the things that may people may not realize is when an agency like the CDC is producing uh this kind of very important health data, it's not just for public consumption at large.

There's a whole network of researchers outside of the federal government that absolutely depend on this data, can't create or collect it on their own.

It's just too expensive to do.

Um, and so there's this vast infrastructure that really the CDC and other similar public health agencies are kind of up holding up as as as you know from the bottom.

So if you had a magic wand, if what would be at the top of your list for reforming the C D C?

Right.

Well what's so interesting about your tenure in New York City is that, you know, your what you did there really shows that public health is a thing that, you know, sometimes is wildly unpopular at first and then becomes normalized.

But it's exactly the kind of thing that people don't vote for.

Nobody votes for I want to end smoking in restaurants and bars.

But then we decide, oh, this is much better.

I can breathe.

So that's I think the real challenge for public health in a in a democracy.

I think you might have been spying on my family.

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