Elizabeth Jo

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2,299 appearances 6 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2025 last heard 27 Mar

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99% Invisible · Constitution Breakdown #4: Janet Napolitano · 28 Nov 2025 podcast

And you mentioned this idea of this law enforcement discretion.

That's actually part of what's in the memo that you signed when you established DACA, that this, in your view, was an example of prosecutorial discretion.

Can you explain a little bit more about what you mean by that term or what was meant at the time and how that actually justifies the DACA program itself?

So it sounds like this is kind of similar to another initiative under President Obama, which was the guidance officially from the Justice Department about not going after every single person who might be violating the federal laws regarding marijuana.

So maybe we don't have enough resources.

So is that fair to say that it's a kind of similar discretion?

So that brings me back to this idea of discretion again.

I think one of the things people are trying to do is understand the current moment and the way that the White House is flexing its authority.

So if the president has the broad authority to establish a program like DACA, which is, as you say, an exercise of executive discretion...

Well, isn't that the same broad authority that President Trump in his first term relied on to justify the travel ban on majority Muslim countries?

And couldn't it simply also be the same broad authority to justify some of these really frightening immigration raids that we've seen around the country?

Is that all part of the same spectrum of discretion?

You say it's bad law enforcement policy.

Could you say a bit more about that?

Why you think so?

Oh, for heaven's sake.

Well, when you mentioned that it's a temporary fix, what does it mean to you that now, 13 years later, that this really seems to be the only solution and it kind of seems to be fading actually for

group of undocumented young people?

What does that mean to you now?

And so do you see that Trump's use today of just a whole slew of executive orders, is that part of what you see as the exceeding the boundaries of what the president can do?

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