Elizabeth Mitchell

Great to see you, Steve.

So what we have here is, as you've said, some administration sources said, people close to the administration all agree that AI is one of the most controversial issues right now in the Trump administration.

So we have four coalitions that are competing here for the president's attention.

We have one, we have the tech accelerationists.

Those are big tech people.

You've been talking about Marc Andreessen of Andreessen Horowitz.

He has some influence in the administration, people like Elon Musk.

David Sachs, Shuram Krishnan, that's the big tech accelerationist crowd.

Then we have three other coalitions who are united against the tech accelerationists.

That's the Populist Coalition, the National Security Coalition, which is concerned about China, Populist Coalition is concerned about jobs, and then the Family Coalition, which is concerned about the suicides we're seeing, AI convincing kids online, concerned about the deepfake porn we're seeing being made by AI.

That's a danger to kids.

And so these coalitions are all trying to figure out where to go on AI policy.

It's a relatively new issue where the right doesn't have a unified stance yet.

And there's a lot of different opinions about how we should push forward.

Well, when I talked to Joe Allen about this, he said that currently AI doesn't have the capacity to replace a large number of jobs, but that very likely is in the future.

And it's something that we're not seeing a lot of preparation for or a lot of preparation for how to prevent that.

And so I think that as we inch closer and closer to more people being replaced by AI, more people are going to wake up and say, hey, I'm about to lose my job because of AI and I want the administration, I want Congress, the government to do something about this.

Yeah, it's these traditional conservative groups, people like Michael Toscano over at the Institute for Family Studies, Daniel Cochran, Heritage Foundation, who have talked to these families who have had children take their own lives due to AI convincing them to do so.

We have character AI being sued for this, other incidents of

similar things happening.