Elizabeth Phillips

So I mentioned Kids Across America for that socioeconomic level.

And then there's K-Country, which is where the super predator was.

He was the director.

I hate it when the media reports him as a counselor, like he was just a random counselor.

No, he was the heir apparent to Joe White's throne.

Yeah.

He's in prison for three life terms, my brother's perpetrator.

But he was going to be the next Joe White.

He was the Rainmaker.

But that's his camp, K-Country, and that's, like, elementary-aged children.

And then there's K-West for, like, preteens, 12- to 14-year-olds.

There's K-1, where you can go for a month, and that's after you graduate from K-Country.

There's K-7, which used to just be one week, and you, like, stayed in teepees.

And then there's K-2, which is for the teens.

And that's a month-long thing.

So there's a lot of different camps within the Kanakuk Camps umbrella.

And they call it Kanakuk Ministries now because they have all sorts of other programming, like I mentioned, like the Basketball Academy.

They spun off a tech platform called Circuitry.

This is an empire.

$35 to $45 million in annual revenue.