Elizabeth Strout

I was, but now every night I make myself feel hopeful.

I find something that's helpful and I think, okay, let's just think about that.

It's going to be very hard because the country, I mean, the whole Department of Justice has been, you know, wiped out as we know it.

And the IRA, I mean, there's just so many things that will take a long time.

But precisely, precisely, exactly.

And it's very, very sad.

Right.

No, I still think that's the way, that's our main hope, is in our ability to feel for somebody else and to get out of ourselves for a moment and understand as well as we can what it's like to be another person, because we can do that.

I've tried very hard to, and I can make my mind go there if I have to.

Um...

Anger.

They're very, very angry.

And I think I understand some of that.

Yes, precisely.

Yeah.

And I understand that.

I think it's a very, and it didn't just come out of nowhere.

I mean, obviously it feels that way, but it didn't.

It's been building up for many, many years that they have been feeling humiliated, you know, by the,

Yeah.