Elle Duncan

And, you know, I think the issue that they raised for me is that, like, Roger Goodell gets called a lot of names.

He's maligned, like, by fans.

He gets booed everywhere he goes.

And most of that is because everyone believes that he only works for the owners and he's got the owner's interest in mind only, right?

So he's in with the owners and he's not in with the players.

That's the idea, at least, the narrative that swirls.

When it comes to Kathy, she doesn't necessarily have great relationships with the teams or the players.

So if you're not...

If you're not like currying favor with either side, I just don't know how you survive it.

And I watched her, y'all, get booed mercilessly at the WNBA finals when we were in Phoenix.

And I think it shocked her.

I think it was really off-putting to her to see how she has become the villain in this story.

And I think she's done a really good job raising capital throughout the years where it wasn't as easy to raise capital, where we didn't have numbers and metrics to prove that this was a great business strategy.

But I also think that like,

the relationship has clearly deteriorated to a place where I don't think it's ever going to be fixed.

And if you at least had the owners on your side going, that's our girl and we're going to make sure she stays.

But I don't think she has that either.

So if you don't have either side, I just don't know how long you're in for this job.

I would maybe say Akron has a basketball problem in general because that's crazy.

And, like, here's the thing, though.