Ellyse Perry

Yeah.

How much time do I spend overthinking simply saying hello to someone, let alone having a full conversation with them?

I really struggle when I'm anxious or like just shy or.

Yeah, awkward.

Like making eye contact is really hard.

Standing still and just holding myself in a composed nature, like I'll always fiddle with my hands or sway or something.

I just like the energy that I need to kind of get rid of like somehow or another.

I definitely find it, yeah, really tricky to just be still in a space and engage with someone directly.

Yeah.

And it really blew me away, like that that's the case.

And I think it actually, like to a degree now when I am in situations, I'm like, okay, like you're just saying hello.

Like, and what happens from there?

Like, I feel like I probably think three steps down the track, like, okay, so I say hello and then what do I say?

And then what do I say?

And it's like, actually relating to another human being is pretty natural instinct, like just go with the flow.

But yeah, I never used to do that.

Um, and it wasn't until that day.

that you couldn't actually speak to people that I was like, oh, my God, I overthink all of this.

I probably think it's the total opposite because then I think you perhaps need to live up to someone's perception about you and you almost start on like unequal footing like, you know, because they've seen you before, they've made assumptions about you based on what you do and back to that conversation that we're having about identity.

In any interaction that I have with anyone, like I don't stand there going,