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Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

You've got to ignore the things that don't matter.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

You don't care about the details of the leaves and the tree on the side of the road, but you care a lot about the road signs and the traffic lights and the pedestrians, and even whether somebody in another car is looking at you or not looking at you.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

Some of these details matter a lot.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

So if it is essentially, it's got to turn that, the car's got to turn that one and a half gigabytes a second, ultimately into two kilobytes a second of control outputs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

So many stages of compression, and you've got to get all those stages right, and then correlate those to the correct control outputs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

The robot has to do essentially the same thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

And you think about what humans, this is what happens with humans.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

We really are photons in, controls out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

So that is the vast majority of your life has been vision, photons in, and then motor controls out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

You're highlighting an important limitation and difference between cars.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

We'll soon have 10 million cars on the road.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

It's hard to duplicate that massive training flywheel.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

For the robot,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

What we're going to need to do is build a lot of robots and put them in kind of like an Optimus Academy so they can do self-play in reality.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

So we're actually pulling that out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

So we're going to have at least 10,000 Optimus robots, maybe 20,000 or 30,000.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

that are doing self-play and testing different tasks.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

And then Tesla has quite a good reality generator, like a physics-accurate reality generator that we made this for the cars.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

We'll do the same thing for the robots.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

We actually have done that for the robots.