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Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

So you have a few tens of thousands of humanoid robots doing different tasks.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

And then you can do millions of simulated robots in the simulated world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

And you use the tens of thousands of robots in the real world to close the simulation to reality gap, close the sim to real gap.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

Yeah, so Grok would orchestrate the behavior of the Optimus robots.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

So let's say you wanted to build a factory.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

Then Grok could organize the Optimus robots, assign them tasks to build the factory to produce whatever you want.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

What were we saying earlier about public company discussions?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

Since we're defining the proper noun, we could define the plural of the proper noun too.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

So we're going to proper noun the plural, and so it's optimae.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

No, we're moving towards that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

We're going forward with mass manufacturing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

I mean, it's very hard to scale up production.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

But yeah, I think Optimus 3 is the right version of the robot to produce maybe something on the order of like a million units a year.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

I think you'd want to go to Optimus 4 before you went to 10 million units a year.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

Yeah, I mean, it's very hard to spool up manufacturing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

So manufacturing, the output per unit time always follows an S-curve.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

So it starts off agonizingly slow, then it has this sort of exponential increase, then a linear, then a logarithmic outcome until you sort of eventually asymptote at some number.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

But Optimus initial production will be, it's going to be a stretched out S-Cove because so much of what goes into Optimus is brand new.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

There's not an existing supply chain.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Elon Musk - "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

As I mentioned, the actuators, electronics, everything in the Optimus robot is designed for physics first principles.