Emily Chang

They're deciding they don't want to be promoted because it doesn't seem worth it.

After all the work that's been done, all the talk, what do you think broke?

How does this put companies at risk?

Or is the conventional wisdom that this is better for business not ringing true?

The Trump administration is pushing policies that explicitly try to incentivize women to have more babies while simultaneously weakening workplace protections.

Do you see these natalist policies, as they are called, as pressure on women to return to traditional roles?

Or is it support for families?

President Trump has called on companies to root out what he calls illegal DEI, you know, threatening federal contracts, threatening regulatory action.

How...

is this going to be looked back on?

How is history going to look back on the DEI rollback?

Meta is among many companies that have rolled back DEI policies, and Mark Zuckerberg reportedly blamed you for the policies being there in the first place.

Some employees have felt that your legacy is being dismantled.

What have your conversations been like with Mark about this?

I know you're still friends, and you have to have feelings about this.

You have to acknowledge that there's a big rhetoric shift happening.

And obviously we're seeing it in Silicon Valley.

We are seeing people, tech leaders who said one thing in the last election now whispering in the president's ear.

A lot of these people that you know personally.

What do you think is happening here?