Emily Maitlis

He will manage the cabinet probably much better because you can't do much worse than what Keir Starmer is doing at the moment.

But the problems remain the same.

And we just on so many fronts.

Because Andy Burnham has been running a by-election campaign and not a prime ministerial campaign, he's talking about maker field issues.

In very short order, he's going to start having to talk about the big macro issues facing Britain.

Well, I've just been contacted by someone who's got very, very good contacts with the MOD who says Dan Jarvis.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Will be the next defence.

Yeah.

And so that he will be the person.

And that's coming from someone, you know, right in the heart of defence land.

We will see.

But anyway, that's our call for now.

Well, anyway, that's what I've heard.

But I mean, what does Starmer say now?

What does Starmer come out and say about what is happening?

And to reassure...

You've had a defence secretary resign and saying, in effect, in terms that Keir Starmer is not keeping this country safe and doing what is necessary.

Yeah, that was very well... Moment in time.

A moment in time.