Emily Pogue
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first heard Jan 2026
last heard 13 Jan
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What could a board game do for you?
Beyond bragging rights and maybe playful trash talk, the game Catan might be training your brain for strategy, negotiation, and navigating messy real-world power dynamics.
I'm here with someone who's recently written about this.
She is a business studies lecturer at the University of Wollongong in Australia.
Her name is Nellie Liana Gamage.
Nellie, welcome to the show.
For those who have never played Catan, what is the aha moment when you realize this isn't just a fun board game, but something sneaky that's happening to your brain while you play it?
For me, it's this profound realization that I'm not very good at the game.
So I lay on the charm offensive and I try to convince people to make bad trades and stuff.
And that for me is how I do it.
But that's a legitimate strategy, right?
Like just being really charming to your peers.
So, Ketan, if it does build strategic thinking, what kinds of things are going on in your brain that actually, that we're actually training, like the kinds of things that most of us don't practice in everyday life?
Got it.
So a game like chess, I would argue, is not luck at all.
There's no random chance involved.
A game like roulette is pretty much completely luck.
It's all random, and if you get the right number, you've won.
What's the balance with Catan?
Is it mostly luck?
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