Emily Vernem

The dilemma is so good, I'm not going to give any spoilers, but a little taster is this woman wrote in and said that she was a young woman who was about to marry a relatively conservative into a relatively conservative family.

And she had naked pictures of herself on the internet from a shoot that she'd done for money when she was younger.

And she knew that this was going to be a big sticking point.

for her boyfriend slash fiance's family and whether or not she should tell them.

And that was the dilemma that came in and things just get out of control.

It ends up with all kinds of drama.

It's so well told.

I love it.

But what I particularly like about it is the really slippery nature of this parasocial relationship because when Monica's interviewing Elizabeth and Andy about how they felt about building this audience and the relationship they had with their audience,

It's very familiar.

You know, this is obviously our world and what we do.

But about the dangers of overstepping and when they are, like, giving life advice in a really serious way to their audience members, like, again, with something we're relatively familiar with and why it's always good to keep dilemmas kind of not...

not too high stakes, but how it turned into this very intense relationship.

And then the comments section took on a life of its own.

And then the person with the dilemma.

Anyway, it's great.

And if you've got time, it's one of those good podcasts to just lean into and enjoy.

Yeah, it's great.

Because you hear Kate Clancy's telling her own story in the first episode and then you hear the people who cancelled her.

So from their mouths, like how they felt it was so harmful, why they did it.