Emma Gannon

Like, if you're not having kids, you better have a really big life.

You better have a really exciting, full life.

And I really want to fight for the kind of mundane life of a woman who chooses not to have kids.

You're allowed to do very little and not have kids.

You don't have to achieve everything under the sun.

if you're not going to do it.

And I think that's something I've kind of wanted to normalise, I think.

I'm sure there's others.

Well, it's interesting because I kind of zoom out of all of this and think, like, what does the communities look like?

What does society look like?

And actually, I feel like child-free women bring a lot to society.

You know, if someone is sick, if someone has aging parents, if someone needs someone with free time,

someone with more finances, because child-free women normally have more money, I think it's sort of like, well, let's celebrate the auntie figure.

Let's celebrate the godmother.

These are people in society that I think get stuff done as well.

And so if we're talking about the stigma of women maybe not being maternal if they don't want kids, actually, there's so much maternal nature to a lot of women that don't have kids.

even by choice, like they can really help the village with the children.

And it's something that I like really pride myself on.

Women more broadly filling in those gaps.

We don't need to, like, put it on people, but...