Emma Grede

And I think the biggest regret is just when you don't try something, right?

When you actually allow the fear to hold you back.

How have you been able, as you've gone through your career, to get more and more comfortable with taking risks?

Like, what does that actually look like?

Oh yeah.

So how do you actually figure out?

Because I do think that there is a whole audience of people that are listening.

And I really believe that you can be entrepreneurial in a corporate environment, in like a regular job.

But how do you figure out if the way that we're talking about entrepreneurialism now, starting a business, being a founder is actually for you or not?

Jumping in the pool.

Nothing to it, but to do it.

There's no weird test.

There's no bullshit report.

Isn't that what's so hard for people to understand, though?

You just got to do it.

I think it's really important to contextualize how important it is to eclipse fear and to have moments of failure.

I think of all of the biggest moments of failure

almost like lift where I've actually been able to propel myself forward.

They've come after something has gone really wrong.

Do you have those moments in your life, in your career where you've actually failed and something really great has come out of it?