Emma Grede

I agree.

It's hard because it's hard to dial back, especially when what you're seeing all around you.

And then you imagine that if you don't do that for your kids, you're somehow letting them down.

So I think it's a really, it's just an important conversation to have.

Like, what are you optimizing for?

It is the answer.

Listen, I couldn't agree with you anymore.

What do you see when you look around at your peers, at the people you know have been successful, all the ambitious people in front of you, what has been running underneath their ambition?

What is it that those people all have in common?

That was maybe a bit of me.

It was that simple.

I feel like you wear the, I don't care, like it's a badge of honor.

Why is that so important?

No, listen, I married a nice guy.

I can't even imagine, I can't imagine anything else.

And I actually really, when I think about attributes in business, it really befits you to be nice.

Well, of course.

So what do you think the most important attributes are?

Because when you, we were talking about like skill, like when you think about curiosity, but what is important?

How do people get to know themselves though?