Emma Grede

You have had such an amazing, it's like a movie.

When I read your life, you know, it's like you became a mother as a teenager.

You then went out and started, you know, discovering the world and doing everything that you did.

You dropped out of college.

You were waitressing as a teenager.

And it feels to me like there was this kind of moment, this opportunity that you had to truly start with yourself.

And you began writing about your pain.

You kind of built this platform.

And now I look at you, you're running a global empire.

You're doing so much.

And you're also leading a megachurch.

And I guess my question to you from the beginning has to be like, I wonder if as you were going through all of that stuff, all of that tumultuous time, if you could see and if you understood that there was something bigger on the other side.

So what did you think you would do as a kid?

You must have had, like, hopes and dreams and, you know, why I was dreaming of being a fashion designer.

What was it for you?

Not to be a pastor.

That was nowhere.

I was literally about to say, did you imagine you would follow your father's footsteps?

What was the decision for you that you weren't going to let like hard moments in your life define your future?

How did you decide to start speaking and thinking about yourself and your own identity differently?