Emma Louise

And it's so good to sing to.

And it's just like A plus songwriting, you know, legendary 10 million points.

Oh my God.

I mean, I'd like to think that that's when you know it's like true, you know?

When he goes like, Okay, I took a long time to get ready to... I'm just like, oh...

Do you mean in a song or in life?

Both.

Yeah.

I mean, yeah, totally.

I think that as I get older, I can recognize like, oh, this is like, this is a good time.

Like when I have a few friends visiting or something, I'm like, right now is a time that I will crave, you know, which is so good because then I'll like soak it up, you know, and I won't be on my phone and all that stuff.

And I feel like that with my son too.

You know, like I always have this like aerial view of like he's five, he's so beautiful.

And then like even in a year I'll be listening to what he sounded like at five and, you know, like it's beautiful.

I don't think a song is going to grow from like a grey kind of period.

It's like got to have enough life to give birth to the song.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, my first instinct is to Google the word redemption, but I'm not going to do that.

Like, I'm like, what if I get it wrong?

I think redemption for me is like returning to that place in me where I can access all of the