EPA Lawyer

You just mentioned two examples. Have you or EPA lawyers actually given that to the court or use that as side of that as fraud or criminality?

Have you? You're a lawyer.

They have mentioned this. Which hearing was it at? Because I don't see it in the transcript that happened in the United Climate conversation. As a matter of fact, I'm going to read to you the court transcript. Can you proffer any evidence that there was illegal or evidence of abuse or fraud? That any of this was improper or unlawful?

EPA lawyer, I'm certainly not suggesting any of that was illegal or improper. Just yesterday, an EPA lawyer at the hearing suggested, we're not accusing anybody of fraud.

Well, you're alleging criminality. You did so in a Fox News interview. You said that's what this greenhouse reduction fund was. You shouldn't be doing that if you cannot pro-offer the evidence.

This is not Fox News. We're not going to just allow you to just make allegations here without that evidence.