Eric Schwalm

You always want, if it's just like disturbing an anthill, once you disturb that anthill, look for what happens next.

Don't just get caught up in, in, in the hoo-yahs and everything of slapping yourself on the back when you, you make something happen out there.

And there's, there's a lot of ways that, that, uh, that,

cash could do that.

There's a lot of people out there doing so much good stuff as far as, as picking stuff apart.

Uh, you look at what like data Republican is doing out there with looking at the crunching, the numbers, um, Mike Benz, uh, Sam shoemate, uh, Mike Shelby, all those guys are out there, really good Intel people.

And they're picking at the surfaces of stuff and pulling things out there that can, if you look at it, um,

Just piece by piece by piece, you're going to see the network start to appear.

And it really takes a lot of time.

One thing we had in intelligence is everybody always demanded, what does the picture look like?

What does the picture look like?

And I will tell you this.

Intelligence is like working with a puzzle where you've got three different puzzles mixed into the box.

There's no picture on the cover of the box of what you're trying to make.

You're missing about 50 pieces of each different puzzle.

And you could go down any lane if you start making one puzzle.

And it could be the wrong puzzle that you're building.

So no picture, no idea.

You're just trying to figure stuff out.

And it's all about looking at all the puzzle pieces with an open mind.