Eric Topol

I love that.

Now, one last question I have for you before I was opening up, finish up, but interruptions.

So during the night, when you have these monitoring, whether it's a sleep lab or with wearables, you're awake a lot more than you know.

Sometimes these are very brief.

Sometimes they're longer and maybe you do know then.

And so the person that says, oh, I went to bed and I slept eight hours, they may actually have only actually been asleep seven hours or a number, seven and a half hours.

Are these interruptions meaningful?

I mean, if you have a lot of deep sleep and REM sleep and whatnot, does it matter if you have these short bursts of interrupted wakefulness, I should say?

That's great.

I love this AFNAR.

I have to say I wasn't familiar with it, so it's a new acronym for me.

Okay.

We've covered a lot of ground, Professor Ju.

I mean, you're a gem.

You're a resource of great information.

A lot of this is so practical, too, not just the science of sleep.

Did I miss anything that you think is worth reviewing for the people that are joined us?

yeah i've never the resistance to you know keeping this yeah even though there's a tremendous outpouring of public to to not have it so so maybe someday you know maybe someday but uh it sure is taking a long time to get it on track well

Yoel, what a joy to have this conversation with you.

We really have hit the goal for experts on this topic, which is so central to so many people in this crazed world we live in that's