Eric Topol

Thank you.

I've really enjoyed it.

And we're going to look forward to your next book on heredity in March.

So let me introduce the person who I have just a real pleasure, privilege to interview today.

I have a conversation with Dr. Jen Gunter.

She is a gynecologist, OB-GYN in Kaiser, Northern California.

And she's been in the US for a few decades.

She has two New York Times bestselling books.

That's a big accomplishment on top of her career.

She has a blog.

Vagenda, which is phenomenal on Substance.

And she's out there as one of the great truth tellers in medicine, in particular, and this topic.

She's been my go-to source for years.

So welcome, Jen.

Oh, this is really a delight.

And so I thought we'd start because just two weeks ago was a big day in the world of MHT.

Uh, and this was when there was a wall street journal editorial by Marty McCary, the FDA commissioner, and also simultaneously a JAMA paper, um,

And so I just was gonna start by reading, obviously it was a big deal to have the black box from 2003 taken away, but there were a couple of statements I wanted to get your reaction to.

The first was in the liberation editorial that Marty wrote.

He said, in my professional opinion,