Esther Perel

Love isn't performative and

uh on a stage but that's what it feels like now that love is on a stage of the person and their friends the person and their family and that that feels exploitative and it feels like how can you ever so i i i think a big part of is also the worry for people to miss out on connection that comes from that so anyway so many things i mean i'm sure when i listen to the episode again a million other things but i'm grateful for you always opening up new visions and new spaces so thank you

Thank you.

It's fun.

If you enjoyed this conversation, you'll love my episode with the world's leading relationship therapist, Esther Perel, where we talk about why your ego is ruining your relationships and how to date more effectively.

I think we need to differentiate.

Are you looking for chemistry for a love story or are you looking for chemistry for a life story?

Where shall we begin?

As we say on the podcast.

Where should we begin?

There's a lot of things behind what's happening to dating.

Dating is the symptom.

But maybe one way of asking is what's going on in the world of relationships?

that is making dating more complicated.

The world of dating itself, romantic consumerism is really challenging.

when you are constantly looking for the perfect and afraid to settle for the good, when you are dealing continuously with the paradox of choice with so many options and looking for a soulmate on an app, and with the tremendous case of FOMO, when the ick factor is so omnipresent and very, very quick to kick in.

When we need more social skills than we ever needed before because we are living in such a contactless reality and we actually don't have the skills to speak to people, to look at them.

One of the first things we just did when we saw each other is touch.

You know, we have been so disembodied.

So we looked at each other, we smiled to each other, we touched each other, and we kind of really grounded ourselves in each other's presence so that we can have a conversation rather than trying to look for algorithmic perfection.