Evan Smith

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503 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 27 Jul

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Decoder with Nilay Patel · Tariffs didn’t bring manufacturing jobs back to the US · 27 Jul 2026 podcast

I'd be lying if I said we had the end state fully realized, but this is an active conversation that we're having out loud with all these stakeholders in the company.

It's like, okay, these roles are converging and like, what are the new ways of working and how are you going to expand your skillset and kind of push into this new, this new horizon.

And, you know, I think most everybody's been excited and along for that ride and, you know, trying to surf the wave, but you know, it does, it does,

It does threaten certain egos.

You know, if you've come up as a, as a, uh, close to the metal engineer, um, this is threatening.

If you've come up as a really principled user experience researcher and product designer, you know, this could be threatening and, and, and so, you know, just like anything else changes, uh, changes hard and you got to manage it through, um, uh, you know, a cultural transformation of the organization.

Plenty.

I think we're coming up on eight years now.

But I would say the difference is we've got a team that's pretty mature for a tech company because of the scale of what we've taken on, the ambition of what we've taken on, the complexity.

We tend to hire just...

later in, in careers.

I mean, obviously there's a spectrum, but, um, but I think, you know, on the, on the engineering side, especially we've got, we've got some really, really seasoned people in the company.

Um, same is true in commercial.

Uh, so it's, it's not just about, you know, how old is the organization?

It's, it's like, how long have folks built mastery in these domains?

You're probably putting your finger on the raw nerve between me and our engineering team.

So, yeah, look, it's getting incredibly easy to prototype and get an MVP out there.

It's still hard to get.

uh, highly functional, highly performant at scale software, uh, deployed with, um, SLAs, you know, service level agreements that include like 99.999% uptime for some of these workloads at some of the most important organizations in the world.

So, uh, it's a tension.

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