Evan Spiegel

humanity is far more important, you know, than than the technological developments, largely because humanity dictates how technology is adopted.

Right.

I think, for example, right now, people are massively underestimating the role that human adoption and human comfort, you know, with advances in artificial intelligence will determine its deployment.

I think technology leaders think that folks will just blindly adopt new technology as it comes out.

And I think we're going to enter a period of time where there's going to be a huge amount of societal pushback on a lot of the changes that are coming with AI.

And so I think a lot of our focus as an industry, but more broadly in the world, needs to be putting humanity first, making sure that the tools we're developing are advancing humanity's goals in addition to business goals.

And I think in our industry, at least, that's a bit contrarian.

Well, you know what I just finished was The First 50 Years of Apple by David Pogue.

I thought it was great.

I would recommend the first half because he interviews like 150 early Apple team members and the stories are just great and there's a lot of learnings in there.

So I really enjoyed that.

I think, what else have I read recently?

There's a great book maybe relevant for this particular moment called The End of the World is Just the Beginning, which actually touches a lot on the vulnerability of global shipping.

Like the global economy is built on global shipping.

And it sort of predicts a world where the U.S.

is going to have a much harder time securing the global waterways.

And what does that mean for the way that we build things and organize ourselves as a society?

That sounds quite familiar these days.

quite relevance for the given yeah moments yeah awesome is there a recent movie or tv show you have really enjoyed i mean i feel like this is so typical but like i i loved marty supreme i thought that movie was off the charts uh and i i was like i i don't know i'm i'm not used to watching stuff that extreme you know i mean i could i was like on the edge of my seat the whole time it's like a full throttle movie experience highly recommend

It's very intense.