Eve Rodsky

So I kept thinking what – and I would write this in my journal.

For women who don't want to bring this up, who don't want to practice fair play, I kept saying, well, what's the alternative?

For me, it was being a gray version of myself and dying inside and parenting my partner.

I mean, that sounds terrible.

Divorce.

I don't know, emotional affairs.

I mean, a lot of women, Esther Perel talks about that a lot.

Or finally, just having the boundary to say, you know what, Seth, I noticed this phenomenon that you get three hours after

our kids go to bed to watch SportsCenter, work out, finish a PowerPoint deck.

And I'm doing things in service of our home until my head hits the pillow.

And yes, you make more money than me, but I have a stressful job that's just as impactful to the world.

And that's not going to mean everything's going to be 50-50, but I'm no longer willing to live with this time discrepancy.

But Nicole, that took a lot of work on myself.

And that's why I think sometimes I think

the conversation we're having deserves a trigger warning because I think I'm giving you another system, another system like your financial systems.

This should just slot into your other types of conversations.

But then I realized that because we've been conditioned this way, because we live in a patriarchy, because there's so much pain around relationships, this is actually a very painful conversation for a lot of women.

Yes.

Well, I love equations and you have them again with your other guests.

So I'm going to give you an equation where I think to me the equation is ownership.