Eve Rodsky

And also, obviously, make money and do some wonderful, powerful things with their capital.

But I love that you have a message that also helps people avoid economic risk.

And the biggest economic risk a woman can take is having a child.

And once we realize that that's 80% of our pay gap, it's the reason why Lean In is recently saying they have a study that came out yesterday that said women have no ambition anymore over 40.

They have an ambition gap.

I mean, it's just total bullshit.

It's just that we have care responsibilities.

They don't even mention the word mother in their study, which I think is so bizarre.

We don't have an ambition gap.

We have an exhaustion gap.

We need to start talking about the truth of what it is to do unpaid labor.

Until we invite men into their full power in the home, women are really not going to be able to step out into their full power in the world.

That's why I love that we're having this conversation.

in these contexts, because the biggest economic risk women will take is becoming a mother.

And it's because society assumes they're going to do the unpaid labor of the home.

And then they stop paying us because they think we're not going to be as committed to the workplace.

And that cycle becomes vicious.

It happens in every generation.

And look, we're trying to close it.

But right now, unfortunately, the pay gap is the worst it's been.