Eve Rodsky

Like I thought we were getting like pizza and having like three of our family members over.

And it became like a really big point of contention.

So I wish I had had fair play with Zach because I would have sat Seth down and said, do you remember what I told you about my mom's eviction notices?

Well, here's what happened to me when I had a plan.

my own birthdays and birthdays matter.

And so those are the things I think humanize us.

And if we can humanize this work, so that's not seen as just like women's housework and chores, but it's actually like our humanity, Nicole, it's like all of our memories are these things.

Like, I loved learning that about you.

I want to now know more about these non-zero and five birthdays.

They were.

I'm sure they were epic.

Yeah.

Well, the good news is you get a beautiful chance, right, to break all those cycles.

But you also have a chance for some of that joy.

How do you talk to your kids now about invisible work?

You have two sons, one daughter.

It's really for my sons.

I would say appropriate, obviously.

Yeah.

My sons are the ones, unfortunately, who have to hear it day in and day out.