Ezra Klein

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767 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 11 Sep

Ezra Klein’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy? · 27 Mar 2026 podcast

either what is missing in the word smart or what is missing in that understanding? voice-verified

What do you mean when you say make it smarter? voice-verified

Do you still see these AI systems as a souped-up autocomplete, or do you think that metaphor has lost its power? voice-verified

But the autocomplete metaphor at least had a perspective on what it was these systems were doing. voice-verified

It was a prediction model. voice-verified

I have trouble with this because as my understanding of the math and the reinforcement learning goes, we're still dealing with some kind of prediction model. voice-verified

And on the other hand, when I use them, it doesn't feel that way to me, right? voice-verified

It feels like there's intuition there. voice-verified

It feels like there's a lot of context being brought to bear. voice-verified

To the extent it's a prediction model, it doesn't feel that different than saying I'm a prediction model. voice-verified

Now, I'm not saying you can't trick it. voice-verified

I'm not saying you can't get beyond its measurements. voice-verified

So on the one hand, I don't think these are now just fancy autocomplete systems. voice-verified

And on the other hand, I'm not sure what metaphor makes sense. voice-verified

Genies I don't like because then you just move straight into mysticism, right? voice-verified

Then you've just said they're just a completely alternative creature with vast powers. voice-verified

What do you understand these systems that, you know, anthropic people always tell me you should talk about them as being grown. voice-verified

It's a we grow or you grow AIs. voice-verified

How do you explain what it is that they're doing now? voice-verified

There's been for a long time this interest in the emergent qualities as the models get bigger, as they have more data, as they have more compute behind them. voice-verified

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